He had a shit extinguisher and the flames were going his way, he was still closer than most.

That fire marshall on lhs was shitting himself get to the fire, tanks already gone up he'd have done more good pissing on it ffs.

Stupid Dangerous driving by Grosjean. 100% Grosjean fault

Im glad to see the guys getting out of the medical car had the mind to close their doors first.....

God created the HALO to protect him!

was burned.

not to be that guy, but i notice alot of non f1 fans talking about how the car split it half thinking that it made the situation worse. when in reality the cars are literally designed to break apart like that in the event of a crash, by splitting in two, the back half takes alot of forces and impact away. also the cockpit is built around whats called a "safety cell" meaning in the event of a crash the driver is "protected" and enclosed apart from the rest of the car. also there is kevlar on the gas tank that is supposed to be able to withstand any impact, which failed, normally there should have been NO FIRE, the #1 safety aspect of the car is to try and stop it from catching fire. furthermore, a safety barrier is NOT supposed to fail like that. glad romain is ok, but there is still work to do. but dont discredit the safety teams of f1 by saying "he was lucky" because in reality, everything happened by DESIGN (for the most part)

Stupid comment. There was debris from contact in front. He clearly lost control of the car. Idiot

Debris...

puncture ?

Being scared by the inferno, not sure if he had the adequate protection to get close enough

They design the car so that it snaps at those forces, it helps because that means the force is absorbed mainly by the car and distributed across, and not by the cockpit area alkne.

the" halo" is a protective bar ( top of the head) ( made of titanium) that was introduce 2 year ago to save the drivers head from any impact

it actually took them 9 seconds to arrive and 3 more seconds to get out of the car.. anyway, really really good response!

That's why they drive the first lap behind the pack with the medical car, another absolutely great safety protocol.

And Clark in 1968

@ITpost Safety Troll yeah i see. Kinda sounded like you were making excuses as to why they're not as resistant, but you were just explaining, sorry for the attack. I still think because of those reasons, they should figure out a different way to protect the drivers better, but I understand your point better

@Lauren B. Oh, I see. I didn't say that the gloves shouldn't be as resistant as the suit, just that they aren't as resistant as the suit and the reason why. The reason is actually two-fold. On the one hand, they need to maintain sufficient dexterity to operate the controls during the race. On the other hand, it's a product of the surface area of the hands and fingers themselves being small and yet disproportionately exposed to temperature that makes them difficult to adequately insulate. Similar to how the hands and fingers still become cold inside of all but the thickest of mittens in very cold temperatures.

@ITpost Safety Troll i agree with you there, the thing i was arguing against was you saying that just because it's bulkier the gloves shouldn't be as resistant as the suit. I'm saying they just need to figure out a different way, all parts of the body should be protected equally from fire

​@Lauren B. F1 has proven itself very open to the evolution of safety measures over the past 30 years. As soon as some chemical engineers discover a new textile material that does satisfy those criteria, I'm sure it'll be sewn into or applied to racing gloves. They certainly aren't done improving safety measures, and there will likely be a few significant changes as a result of Grosjean's accident.

@ITpost Safety Troll "currently does not exist", that's what innovation is for. I'm not saying they'll automatically have a solution, but I'm saying the reason for not improving it shouldn't compromise the safety. They're still hella safer than what it used to be, and it protected Grosjean from even worse injuries, but safety is ever-evolving and it shouldn't stop because they couldn't find another way around the problem of it being too bulky

Would have been a headless burnt corpse without the halo, no doubt.

@NOMEKA Uh.. Yes he was beheaded on that crash it was like a guillotine. Without the halo, Grosjean's crash would be hundred percent fatal

@Ralph Christian helmuth koinigg crash us pretty horrible😥 his head is still in the helmet

Don't forget the accident of Niki lauda

@Vectro42 Exactly

@Ralph Christian Same what happened to Koinnig and explosive like Peterson’s... all the ingredients for a fatal accident, but luckily the safety in F1 is incredibly effective nowadays 🙏🏻

@John Leven yes you teach him how to drive

@david Class B are designed to so. It takes heat and Oxygen away from the equation. Apply enough it, and it's good go. Literally basic firefighter training. There's videos everywhere.

It wasn't just luck. I recommend watching WTF1's video on how Grosjean survived

They still have not found an extinguisher that can put fuel fire out to this day.If he was trapped he would have died.

F1 drivers train to get out of the car in any scenario every weekend.

28 seconds.

Il n'a probablement pas été en mesure de respirer pendant une certaine partie du temps qu'il était dans les flammes. L'adrénaline devait être au maximum, pas le temps d'avoir peur sur le coup, juste un corps qui fait tout en sorte afin de se sortir de ce bordel.

It's a miracle that he didnt lose conscionsness.. Do you know the forces of impact? They say 59G? Something like that.

The Halo saved his life from decapitation. But he was also a bit lucky that the monocoque went past the barrier far enough to the other side. If it had gotten stuck right where he was sitting, he could've gotten stuck with no gap to escape and would've burned to death. The safety mechanisms definitely played a role in his survival, but he was also lucky that the circumstances played out the way they did.

Those aren't mutually exclusive brah

And the fact that he never lost consciousness

@G K You've clearly never fought a fuel/oil fire like that with insufficient media! Firstly, he wouldn't be able to see Romain as he was looking at the bottom of the driver cell (given that it was tilted towards the barrier). I'll repeat, he operated the extinguisher CORRECTLY but he was insufficiently equipped to deal with that fire. In the circumstances (given his position relative to the cell) and the equipment he had available there was little else he could do in the 30 seconds before Romain escaped.

@thepymes but in this case a man is stuck in a barrier in flames, no need to sit there and slowly discharge and slowly approach the fire....

He operated the extinguisher CORRECTLY. Extinguishers should always be discharged FIRST away from the flames before advancing towards the seat of the fire. He attempted to tackle a SERIOUS fuel fire with a single extinguisher and without Breathing Apparatus! Professional firefighters would NEVER normally attempt to do that without wearing BA and unlimited firefighting media. The risk of the firefighter being overwhelmed by the smoke or a secondary explosion and therefore becoming a casualty themselves is incredibly high! In that situation it is the lack of BA and the reliance on extinguishers that is practically useless NOT the Fire Marshall!

@esphi LEE Yes you are right. I will apologize to you.. my comment was completely inappropriate. Shouldn't have written that. I will correct my statement to "it's a miracle that technology and safety has come this far that he survived such a crash; and ofcourse his quick actions to get out of the car". Because imagine if he was stressing so hard that he failed to undo his belt for example

@Vlerke Damne , hundreds of racing drivers would have died in the past decade if they relied on miracle to survive. The fire resistance fabric and helmet bought him 20 seconds, without serious burn and smoke inhalation. The carbon fiber tub, halo, hans and helmet prevented him from became immobilized. Medic with fire extinguisher followed the cars in highly modified sport car made sure they arrived within 20 seconds, were all part of engineering design and planning. It was not miracle that saved him, it was misfortune that sent him to the barrier and fire, and engineering saved him. Your first sentence says a lot about your personality. I have no interest in continue further conversation with you.

Let's re-enact this crash with you as the driver. See how good the engineering is that time. His car was split in half, he was in the fire for 20 seconds. He was extremely lucky he didn't pass out. It's definitely a miracle (and good engineering)

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 sour grapes, pucker up!

@34394 Media this ^ and a wind tunnel budget that would bankrupt most teams. That video we all probably seen detailing the advantage they have kind of ruined F1 for in my eyes for the time being. I hope it gets fixed soon. It really would not take much. Standardized down force rules to eliminate tunnel budget advantage for big corporate sponsored teams.

Mercedes dominance is because they were given the full details of the engine regs 5 years before any other team knew of the change. Burnie wanted them to become the next 'big thing' in F1 for whatever reason. Even with that nutjob gone his impact is still hurting the sport.

Agree very lucky to not have been trapped between the guard rail, and not able to free himself...... Do they know what the actual Temp is i wonder......

@YEET I saw that crash and immediately assumed he was gone. Absolutely shocked and elated to see him in the Medical car

I used to hate the halo and how it made the car look uglier but if it saved his life thank God for it

if he was not stucked on the barrier, he would be trowed to drainese and make big impact. but i think its better than trapped on big fire ball

I know, and even in the best case scenario withouth the halo (just getting lucky and not getting his head chopped) he would have definetly been knocked out cold. He wouldnt have been able to get out of the fire on his own.

as a person who studies the structure integrity of Open wheel cars, I can attest that they (at least F1 and Indycar, cant say for sure other series) have fire retardant systems in the cockpit. They are automatically deployed when a sensor feels too much heat. However they are ment for small fires in the cockpit of the car and in this kinda inferno would have done nothing at all. If anything its deployment helped Romain not be burned as badly.

@AncientPickle I went few rallying as photographer. Is part of the safety briefing and lot of them are around fire and where not to stand.

@PC C that makes a lot of since. How do you know that.

gt car fire extinguisher are automatically deployed without pushing buttons, but open wheel race car usually don't have one because with close cockpit is easier to get trapped than open cockpit and such fire rarely happens

@Leuname008 tbf, the forces were estimated at 53g's, so 53x the force of gravity. im not sure what else can be done.

@Leuname008 depends on the angle you hit them at. They can easily reinforce these barriers so that there are no gaps and engineer them to crumble in a certain way.

A tyre barrier cant be there because it would be so easy for another Spa F2....

The barrier should never split like this... These should be removed on every circuit

@ToCA Racer yeah ok but they don’t expect a big crash like this on a straight line

He is ok but won’t be participating for Sahkir GP, still Unsure for Abu-Dhabi

he was ok